Old CowboyBoots: You know way back I was tempted to bring this up, I thought NO, innocent lives were lost on our gvrnmnt's black ops. However when I read all this American Apple Pie Hype of defending our Nation, let's really look at the Big Apple, and expose the CORE! We are also a Nation comprised of many prisoners
22:33 PST 7/28/04
ShoeStop: No Roho, our innocent American's have died in our govt. quest for OIL. We all know the Bushi^tes trail to OIL. The CIA has hired these Muslims, trained them, sold arms to them. The AGENDA was to attack Afghanistan way before 911. Just the 911 date is suspect, and not of Muslim origin.
22:14 PST 7/28/04
help: Can anyone tell me how to leave a longer comment? I get cut off after six lines, yet have seen much longer ones on here. Thanks guys. dreamer
21:41 PST 7/28/04
dreamer: I am simply appalled by the bad rhetoric and knee jer.k reactions I am reading here. I have heard �think outside your circle� on other posts, but no one seems to be living that advice now. People are taking other�s opinions and restating them as though they were absolute truths! Taking things that a
21:25 PST 7/28/04
ROHO:: Pacifist; one who practices nonviolence in everyday life. Did you apologized and are still paying for any dental problems the he might have. You're ashamed of your country, you're a fear monger and you're a liar and I don't think mentally stable.You're an embarras.sment to all Americans.No more talk
21:04 PST 7/28/04
ShoeLace: This isn't for publication, Spellcheck, who once help me tune down "Shoe Blondie" who got into my name. The your^your're or are^our typo's are common. Thanks for the input, I need to slow down. However shouldn't we say "historical" errors instead of history errors? Cite the H.E.'s please, Spellcheck
20:43 PST 7/28/04
SPELLCHECK: SHOE SAID: "...if your going to bank me..." IT IS "YOU'RE" OR "YOU ARE" GOING...... SINCE GOING DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU, YOU DO NOT POSSESS IT, SO IT CAN'T BE YOURS.(he makes a lot of spelling errors, hmmm...and history errors too.)
19:51 PST 7/28/04
Shoeshock: Doglover, the words pack the punch, but it's the whole package to be accessed. To Pilot, yes but not to these designated maneuveres mentioned. To Roho, as far as the "tough" impression, if your going to bank me in a paciFIST corner, my Germanic Roots R going to rise & the scar proof =a lost lullaby
19:33 PST 7/28/04
doglover: yall need to stop fighting and enjoy the picters, not seeing whitch person is more gifted with words
16:37 PST 7/28/04
Pilot: Even if they had been on flight control they had enough training that they could have disengaged it and taken over manually. Even the pilot or co pilot can over ride the automatic pilot and take control of the plane.
16:11 PST 7/28/04
ShoePolish: Roho, like JF^K said," the Enemy is Within", and of course he got shot, there's some reprisal for you!! Oh, that event was up in the sticks in Upper Michigan, I walked 8 blocks TO a bar, bleeding like a gusher, emergency called. Lost a lot of blood in the name of..not blaming Eve? Former Accusation.
13:20 PST 7/28/04
ROHO:: Telling me how tough you are over the internet? I'm impressed. From world peace to a bar room brawl is hardly a comparison and again evading the point. Americans cherish the right to critize their government without fear of reprisal. That critizism should be of worth, not giving comfort to the enemy
12:17 PST 7/28/04
ShoeStomp: Answer to the "colons", to make the Earth GREEN, not money green from the Big War Machine, which would obliterate this Green Earth!
10:54 PST 7/28/04
:::::::::::::::: When did the little green men bring you back to earth?
10:31 PST 7/28/04
TheOldShoe: "if their internal safety restraints were overruled from outside remote control. This bit of information COMES FROM COMMERCIAL AIRPLANE PILOTS, and was widely available after 9^11 when commercial pilots said what they saw was impossible" From Leslie Bell, 4 17 04.
9:35 PST 7/28/04
ShoeShine : On 911 "Those planes pulled "G" forces in those turns that were impossible. The planes have built in safe^guards that make such maneuvers impossible (for protection of the pas^sengers and crew). EVEN WITH AUTOPILOT IS DISABLED. The only way those planes could have done those maneuvers is if their
9:29 PST 7/28/04
Shoestrings: Thomas, I seen that also , but we both know of today's trickery. According to court proceedings, never used, because it was fakery and we wanted to pacify the USA. I use Shoe or Boot always, no fakery, it's versatality and ALL me, implausible to think all these Shoe's agree. Lone Wolf amongst Sheep.
9:12 PST 7/28/04
Tom: The Shoe nicks all belong to one person. They are all the same guy. I don't know why he changes nicks unless it is to mislead, Fake people out, deceive them, or invent his own following. HEY STUPID! THE HIJACKERS WERE ON FILM AT THE AIRPORT SECURITY CAMERAS. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? INSIDE YOUR SHOE?
8:16 PST 7/28/04
4everShoefly: and unlike Shima's ignorant as^sumption that I would sue, higher income B S, I let it go, fair is fair. U can come and observe and kiss my 25 year old scar for freedom. Are you that NAIVE to think the US doesn't have complicity in 911, the evidence is mounting, WE bombed the Big Apple 4 Oil Control!
7:54 PST 7/28/04
Shoester: More name calling ROHO! fyi I knocked 3 teeth out of a guy when I was 24, for calling some girl a wh^ore, turned into a brawl, I stepped out (no one was landing any punches, all drunk), and some guy shook my hand with the other smashed my jaw with a beer bottle & had a blood transf. Naive? HARDLY !
7:44 PST 7/28/04
ROHO:: Shoe, you're a naive peace activist. You think the world will lay down arms, birds will sing and all will be bright and happy. You complain how evil the US is and want apology and understanding of the rest of the world. While enjoying USA's liberty given by men and women lives to protect YOUR rights
6:42 PST 7/28/04
ShoeWalk: Roho, fyi Gandhi did wonders with nonviolent protest. Compa^ssion, and Forgiving are also INHERENT qualities in man. To Madee, fyi we have murders also in our streets, not to mention drive^by^shootings on our HWYS, etc.
3:35 PST 7/28/04
SHOE: "Al Qaeda does not exist except as a bogeyman invented by Westerm powers to justify their evil agenda. There were no hijackers flying those planes on 9^11. And honest FBI agents have been prevented from publicizing the fact." More later from "The Fatal Flaw in the 9^11 coverup".
3:13 PST 7/28/04
TwoShoes: "room in Florida, at possibly the most pivotal moment in American history, pretending to read a book that he was holding upside down". We helped bl^ow these Towers up, "fellow" Americans, and there is strong links to the OKC bombing to 9^11. Time to wake up children !!
2:59 PST 7/28/04
4everShoefly: "as 9^11 highjackers received preferential treatment from American immigration officials when it came to entering and leaving the U.S. on numerous occas^sions. Many of these same names reportedly trained at various US military installations. And we have a president sitting in a ghetto Florida clas^s
2:45 PST 7/28/04
ShoeMAN: "BEFORE they fell, and the seismographic evidence to back up these as^sertions.We have billions of dollars of windfall profits made by savvy investors in the days before 9^11, and an FBI investigation that insists nothing was amiss with these spectacular deals". "Many of the men who were fingered as
2:34 PST 7/28/04
ShoeBlue: "scheme set us as a diversion to inflame dumb Westerners against the Islamic World. The purpose was to divert the World's Attention from the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians by blaming the attacks on Muslims. We have reports from firemen of the explosions at the base of the Twin Towers BEFORE th
2:16 PST 7/28/04
SHOE: "Why don't the alleged hijackers appear on the airport security cameras? Why aren't there credit card records on their ticket purchases?" "The unknown men who playe^d the roles of the so^called Arab terrorist hijackers were really recruited by either American^or Israeli intelligence services in a sc
2:02 PST 7/28/04
ROHO:: I've supplied, as well as others, but what's the point when they fall deaf on your pacifist ears?In your dreamy world of nonviolence, remember man's inherant mix of temptation, jealousy and greed. HAS been since the origin of ALL MEN and WILL be. Ashamed? Go, judge us from the right hand of God.
1:49 PST 7/28/04
walkinggenius: whatz with all these bloody shoe names? are you guys obsessed with shoes of somthing!?
1:39 PST 7/28/04
ShoePolish: Roho, I must say you sound like the epitome of superficial. Much like our Nation with colored toilet paper and designer perfume now for kids. You lack the abliity to see the BIG PICTURE, you are adept at name^calling that's it. Kiss a Communist and go to bed.
1:21 PST 7/28/04
Shoefly: Superficial? Sounds like you are caught in the old school of the great Communist scare. Where are your facts Roho, as you haven't supplied ANY! We all have opinions, and it doesn't take much to get the drift, just watch TV to see how far are priorities are corrupt. Groundless? what a joke.
1:04 PST 7/28/04
ROHO:: Shoe. Healthy debate,eh? HAH! You can't carry on an intelligent conversation let alone a debate.You are giving unsolicited advice based on groundless as.sertions and surperficial data as usual.Terrorists, communists, fascists only understand brute force. Appeasement never has worked and never will.
0:26 PST 7/28/04
Shoefly: As Chefman said we only look in our own yard. We can't even consider other countries plights, or perhaps Y the atrocities, they are so impoverished compared to us. 911 hurt, I felt sick in my heart about it, but CONSIDER what other countries go thru. We are so fixated on America, it stinks of sin!!
23:22 PST 7/27/04
BootWear: I think this Country has a lot of potential, but we are squandering it, with multi million dollar movies, and millions to athletes. Instead of putting money into environmental concerns, reducing the high cost of medical (another racket). I am ashamed of this Country, we ARE blessed, and we can't eve
23:14 PST 7/27/04
Shoe^repair: Germans, Umm that's news to me, however once again if you read, I already criticized the Germans (and I'm half German). I'm sure we can talk atrocities all over, the US does seem to lead though on serial killers (not mayhem and murder tho). I want Peace all over, "imagine".
22:52 PST 7/27/04
Germans: Fritz Haarman, the "Hanover Vampire," who in Germany was convicted of killing at least 27 boys, making sausage out of their flesh, eating them and also selling it to unsuspecting people for human consumption.
22:23 PST 7/27/04
ShoeStyle: What about the MILLIONS we killed in the Vietnam War, compared to our 58,000 loss. Perhaps I should call you STUPID too. We forget about our bloody deeds, indisput^ably in the richest Country in the World. The fact is we sold arms to many of these Nations, now it's coming back to haunt us! HYPOCRISY
20:40 PST 7/27/04
Nonsense: According to you millions of people from all over the world and from all other countries were wrong about Japan, now the Terrorist Plotter from Sept 11, himself is wrong and doesn't know why he hates and only SHOE can know what is in their minds, all the terrorists groups are wrong about why they hate us, all other countries are wrong about everything, only Shoe is right. NOT! You are just plain stupid Shoe.
19:27 PST 7/27/04
SHOE: Now there is a new TV show called "Trading Spouses" for 50,000 cash win. This country is degenerating FAST. You overlook the poverty of these "cruel" nations, wake up and smell the coffee!!!...funny how people won't challenge this land was ^stolen from the Indians. The truth hurts.
19:23 PST 7/27/04
Shoefly: Nonsense, the Israel support is a ruse, it is our plunder on THEIR Oil. Wrong someone else brought up the Middle East 1st. Now somone is giving Ok for kids to kill for defense, wow. There are 22 Arabic Nations, if we stay out of their "woods" we wouldn't have nearly as many terrorist problems.
19:13 PST 7/27/04
SwingerUK: Like I originally stated, and this comes FROM THE MOUTH of one who helped plot the Sept 11 terrorist strike, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, who is A PROUD TERRORIST. The Sept.11, 2001, attacks were nothing compared with what he had in mind. "...after killing all the men on board, Mohammed would alert the media and deliver a speech excoriating the U.S. government for its support of Israel..." NOTE SHOE, THE USE OF THE WORDS "US GOVERNMENT'S SUPPORT OF ISRAEL. which is WHY the USA is hated by them." Why is it ok for you to name call and label Americans, yes downright trash all of them, but you object to being labeled yourself? Answer:You are a hypocrite! I agree with the others who believe you are NOT American at all. Otherwise, you rape your own country and have the audacity and vanity not to want to be insulted for your ignorant comments after you insulted, labeled, and name called them yourself.Yes, I mean name called with your use of insulting labels.
12:07 PST 7/27/04
Popu^lations: United Kingdom: 60,270,708 (July 2004 est.) CANADA: 32,507,874 (July 2004 est.)GERMANY: 82,424,609 (July 2004 est.)FRANCE: 60,424,213 (July 2004 est.). The popu^lations of all these countries COMBINED are STILL over fifty seven million plus, FEWER than the USA's popu^lation. USA: 293,027,571 (July 2004 est.) If mistakes are made, the USA does a remarkable job of functioning together as a whole considering all the diverse cultures that reside there. People are also guilty of ignoring per capita when they take facts into account. Just take a look at the popu^lations and compare them more honestly and realistically. Here is a site called Good Kids with Guns, if it will allow me to paste it here. These kids have saved their own lives and the lives of others by use of guns. These are some of the statistics you don't ever hear from narrow minded people like Shoe. www.freerepublic.co^m(slash)forum(slash)a248982.htm. They are also docu^mented elsewhere, and many more have been added on since this outdated article.
8:37 PST 7/27/04
ROHO:: SHOE And what would you know of "healthy debate" You pull another subject out of an abysmal bag each time you are abuted on a half truth or lie you have told. We're aware of the facts and don't need to hear you trying to su.ck the USA down in your sewer of pity and guilt. You, your ilk are insipid
5:19 PST 7/27/04
Madee: Solution: Move to the Middle East Shoe where you will feel more at home with the murders taking place on the streets and you have the law and religion to back you up. The debate was about if we should apologize or not to Japan, and to avoid it after you were proved wrong you moved onto other topics.
22:58 PST 7/26/04
ShoePolish : To write all the atrocities from Bundy, Dahmer, Green River killer, our corporations, the CIA, our government, the cover^ups, the lies and deception would be an endless job. It's obvious also it's getting worse!!
20:49 PST 7/26/04
Shoester: or properly docu^ment the scene". More on "The West Memphis Three", (people who saw the film and read the doc^uments) "were appalled, and outraged, that such a case of injustice can take place in this country". If I knew the trick to write longer, I could quote MANY sad injust affairs in the USA.
20:44 PST 7/26/04
SHOE: "May 5th, 1993, three 8 year old boys reported missing in West Memphis. Arkansas. On May 6th, the 3 boys were found murdered, in a nearby area. West Memphis P.O. allowed potential evidence to be destroy^ed at a site where the bodies were found. Little effort seems to be have been made to per^serve..
20:35 PST 7/26/04
Shoefly: Wasn't Swinger calling Bush an Idiot (an opinion or a fact)? The R. War was to put Swinger in his place. Once again who can deny we took this land from the "American" Indians. One just have to watch some US TV to see how far this country's values have crumbled. Prove to me where I lied!!
20:15 PST 7/26/04
Debate: There is nothing to debate Shoe. Debates use facts.You give your OPINIONS, spread unproven slander, and you lie. Yes, you even lied about lying. Others quote facts and use statistics,which you then either lie about or try to weasel out of, ignore or move onto The Revolutionary War as a distraction
17:59 PST 7/26/04
SHOE : Time for you two to take the blinders off, also stick to being objective, like a healthy debate, instead of reverting to name^calling. Once again I bave told no lies AT ALL. Never said H. you brought up the Vietcong, but WE should, as we made some grand errors in an area we had no business being the
15:59 PST 7/26/04
SHOE: I have stated many facts: on Vietnam, on our Nuclear Bombing Japan , US serial killers, should I bring up Watergate now TOO for MORE evidence! I think watching "Extreme Makeover" says a lot about the deterioration of our Country. We need an internal makeover, nothing else will do, Nationwise.
13:01 PST 7/26/04
Hiroshima: Yes ROHO,and now to divert attention away from his LIES,he is attacking someone else about the history of the Revolutionary War, which isn't at issue and wasn't part of anyone's statements. Yet still another evasive COWARDLY diversionary tactic from Shoe.He's an idiot who wants some attention.
6:56 PST 7/26/04
WaLkInG gEnIuS: i can feel the beat!
2:49 PST 7/26/04
ROHO:: SHOE You have been presented with facts and figures all through these diatribes. You're either blind, deaf, dumb or all of the three. Your refusal to gain education in order to meet a common grounds of understanding show that you are devious. You are saying "come get us", by spreading you're lies.
21:16 PST 7/25/04
Hiroshima: You discussed the Vietcong you liar not I.
20:08 PST 7/25/04
SHOE: Where are the solid facts Roho, all I hear from you is opinions, and jaded ones, how great this Country is. Once again ponder WHY we are so World Wide disliked. I'd take Blair over Bush though.
15:20 PST 7/25/04
Shoefly: Rape their own country, that has everything, that's hunmorous. Swinger if you really new your history you lost the Revolutionary War. Hiroshima listed some "solid" facts only on Japan, and those are even dubious, as we found lying on the Vietcong. I'm sure Swinger Roho loved you called Bush an Idiot
14:16 PST 7/25/04
SHOE: Relax Roho, NOT once did I say come and get us! Our founding fathers criticized this Nation greatly, that's how things got done! Swinger it is not just Israel siding with,it is our interest in Mideast OIL, our plunder. We are hated around the Globe Swinger!! Look around MORE!! Roho, your paranoic &
13:59 PST 7/25/04
WaLkInG gEnIuS: im your techno rocker
4:01 PST 7/25/04
ROHO:: SHOE. You've weasled out of everything you've been confronted with by solid facts. You seem to take a deranged delight in trying to bring guilt to others. What worries me, Shoe, is that minds like yours can be easily molded by terrorist groups. Indeed, the way you talk, you may have been to clas.ses
1:04 PST 7/25/04
SwingerUK: I am from England and I think anyone who would rape their own country like you do is not much of a man Shoe. If you really knew your own history, you would know Shoe, that the reason you are hated most by the middle east for, is because of your government's and politicians blind loyalty and support to Israel. That is the number one reason for the hatred the Middle East feels toward you. Number two is Bush,(he is an idiot but so is Blair) and the attack on Iraq, but heck, we did that too, and it was OUR faulty intelligence that was partly to blame. Number 3, is jealousy because the USA has evolved so quickly and done so many exceptional, remarkable things. They get jealous so they want to see you fail. You live in one of the greatest places to live on earth, next to the UK ;D, and you don't even appreciate it. Like I said, you aren't much of a man. You give no thanks to God for what you have, you are filled with cr^ap. The only person on this site bragging is YOU about your knowledge, but you have your facts all scr^ewed up. The most arrogant, bragging ones are those people who say mean things about the states, and the American's weren't provoking them first. I can read.
23:13 PST 7/24/04
Shoefly: The correct phrase should be "No where like", pardon my amiss for one word. I would think it would be ridiculous to as^sume this never happend to another country ever. We as King of the "free" World, should be better than this. We had a little Renaissance in the 60's and 70's, but we have downslided
22:48 PST 7/24/04
Shoester: H. there is a difference of not phrasing exactly correctly to lying! Perhaps the Japs are catching up to we "cool" Americans, it is still my contention that we outrank them on that issue. Ironic MANY products made in Japan for us USA'ers. WE COULD talk about THAT.
19:22 PST 7/24/04
Shoefly: I'm talking POLITICS, and BEHAVIOR more so than RACE. I'm not weaseling out of anything. There is a REASON why we our so disliked, not just our outlandish Wealth, but our Pompous Att^itude, the kind you two are promoting! Be humble AMERICANS, or expect more terrorism, also we R exploiting their reso
17:46 PST 7/24/04
ROHO:: Shoe. Exactly my point, you pinhead. What race could you have been born of with having had no harm towards others in their background. Life's a journey, you selfserving bleeding heart, not a guided tour. What's next, making women feel guilty because of Eve and the original sin? Get a life.
14:33 PST 7/24/04
Hiroshima: "No where but USA do we kids killing kids in schools." You LIED SHOE!It is too late to backtrack and CHANGE or WEASEL your way out of your statements. This isn't even the first or only one you have lied about or changed.You are a joke and you are starting to bore me.
14:13 PST 7/24/04
SHOE: Shima, I never lied, the USA does have more school shootings, even a preschool nursery! Germans are highly industrious and exacting technicians, it was a case of "the GERM of the MANY" squeezed in by neighboring counties, they should of stopped after the Rhineland take over, but they got ungodly gre
13:46 PST 7/24/04
Hiroshima: You make ignorant uninformed statements Shoe of which are most are lies easily proven wrong. You said "No where but USA do we kids killing kids in schools." YOU LIED SHOE. Those weren't the only incidents from around the world, just enough to make my point that you are A LIAR!
12:33 PST 7/24/04
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