SHOE: Well congratulations you pulled one Canadian offender into the ring, and your appet^ite against the Japanese is AMAZING. Our list of serial killers outdoes that, and we live in the biggest "squeaky clean" land, more in our thinking we do! Roho, can't help if I was born German, I lament to say. Howev
12:20 PST 7/24/04
Hiroshima: TABER, Alberta, Canada A 14 year old former student was charged Thursday with first degree murder and attempted murder, a day after he allegedly marched into a high school in southern Alberta, Canada and shot two students, killing one and seriously wounding the other.
11:49 PST 7/24/04
ROHO:: You really should try to get out of the basement and from in front of the PC, boy. That squeaky clean bubble world of self righteousness of your's will break from all the finger pointing your doing. But wait! You're half German, following your line of thinking that makes you a JEW KILLER!!
10:13 PST 7/24/04
Hiroshima: You need to read Shoe. You are living in a shallow fantasy world. "A teenager was fatally stabbed by a fellow student during a squabble at a junior high school in Fu^kuoka, in southwestern Japan.A 7 year old boy playing a schoolyard in Kyoto, in western Japan, was fatally stabbed by a teenage as^sailant. The discovery of the severed head of a mentally disturbed 11 year old boy at the entrance to his junior high school in Kobe, 280 miles west of Tokyo, shocked the nation. A 16 year old convicted of beheading Jun Hase was ordered by a court to pay about 836,000 dollars in damages to the victim's parents." Also, in Middle East etc you can satisfy your lust for murder and kill, rape and mutilate right out in public.
9:45 PST 7/24/04
Shoefly: This Country also has a sick pathology, no where in the world are such numbers of serial killers. No where but USA do we kids killing kids in schools. Our grand hypocrisy with drugs. Our multi^Million dollar Movie profits could feed the World.
1:26 PST 7/24/04
SHOE: How do expect Japan to apologize after we bombed the he^ll out of 2 of their cities? Their guilt in the Nanjing Mas^sacre was terrible, but so was OUR relatives, the Germans in WW11. What about our recent torture of Al Quaida detainees, that the International Human Rights Law violates? Hyprocrisy!!
19:08 PST 7/23/04
SHOE : We are a well fed country, where half the World is starving, that is callous? The radiation from those 2 bombs spread around the World, messing up the ecology of the ENTIRE World. We also kept the Japanese in camps during WW11 that were living in the US. This is not even our Nation, we are "raiders"
16:28 PST 7/23/04
Peaches: I have to wonder where your compas.sion is.Millions of civilians killed,raped,tortured by the Japanese from around the world,yet we hear no real sympathy from your lips about them.I am moving off this picture because I can't believe the depths of your callous disregard for those millions they abused
15:59 PST 7/23/04
Hiroshima: The Japanese STARTED the war in the pacific. They invaded China, Malasia, Singapore and New Guinea and more. They sunk British and American merchant ships. They murdered MILLIONS of Chinese civilians in cold blood. They carpet bombed Darwin. They starved POWs and they torpedoed American warships without declaring war.
15:50 PST 7/23/04
Peaches: You were the one Shoe who determined we owed Japan an apology, you are the one who stated they didn't try to destroy our horticulture, and now I hear you making excuses for Genocide?
15:48 PST 7/23/04
SHOE: The Terrorists Acts have been OFF the Homeland. Your'e bringing up the past with WW11 Peaches. When Chefman brought our attention to all the dead from starved Nations, we BLATANTLT IGNORE that, and justify the biggest bombs on Japan from their atrocities. These countries GENOCIDE stems from HUNGER!
15:35 PST 7/23/04
Peaches: I beg to differ. Let's see, USS Cole, American Emba.ssies throughout the world, Khobar Towers etc.,all terrorists actions against the USA. Japanese intent was to destroy our horticulture with the incendiary bombs they released on the Western Coast. Also, the intent of the Japanese in launching air balloon bombs was to cause panic, chaos, fires in Canada and the United States, and destroy the United State's precious forest industry, and death. Some have still been found today and caused injury. Between November 1944 and April 1945, the Japanese launched approximately 9,300 air balloon bombs. You are boasting about how much better we are at being rotten than anyone else in the world, and it is not so. Most of the rest of us are simply stating facts. Too bad you don't speak out against genocide in Sudan, or some other issue you can do something POSITIVE about to help NOW. That would be a worthier cause than dwelling in the past and much more impressive.
15:16 PST 7/23/04
SHOE: In this new War of Terrorism, one truly bloody incident. We are virtually the ONLY ones never attacked, how about some compas^sion for them!!, after all this isn't even our Nation. Conceited American talk again. Out of Gas? I haven't even put most of the fuel in. That's funny.
13:17 PST 7/23/04
Shoefly: America's OWN SINS will bring this Country down. It is in Bible Prophecy AND by the Indians, the people that we took their land, they knew we were coming. It is NOT even our Nation!! Wake Up!!
12:23 PST 7/23/04
SHOE: Yes, I am American. You people,it's good to make honest as^sements of your country. The more you boast, the more the World hears you, and the more disliked we'll be, so you want terrorism, brag some more! Roho, you are the ostrich here. H. the experts concluded Japan never could of won!!
11:15 PST 7/23/04
ROHO:: Shoe is using all this as an instrument in the new war of terrorism we face. With his half truth propaganda, he tries to make people ashamed to admit they are American, working to destroy our unity. Terrorists cannot beat us militarily but being beaten does not mean by military. Find the truth.
10:52 PST 7/23/04
Hiroshima: The Japanese were well known for their ferocity.The CIVILIAN popu^lation was being prepared for an invasion force. They were ARMED, TRAINED, AND PREPARED TO FIGHT TO THE END.Had we been forced to invade losses on both sides would have been staggering. The war would have lasted at LEAST a year longer
8:30 PST 7/23/04
ROHO:: Shoo fly; Really. Money decides the Const.itution and Bill of Rights? Again you choose to slime in evading my rebut to you. If the U.S. should ever fall, you as an enabler, should do quite well. For while I'm forced upon my knees to die, you'll willingly be on your's su.cking their sun for favors.
19:48 PST 7/22/04
Peaches: I just noticed Shoe's statement on another picture. He states, "I picked up your thread and need HELP to curtail these boastful American defenders." So, you aren't from America after all. Stating facts isn't boastful.
19:15 PST 7/22/04
Malemute: SHOE, I'm sorry to say, you are are out of gas...You have opinions and are trying to make them fact,,Not gonna happen...Too many people CAN read and retain facts and figures...There is no more guessing or speculating...Sorry, SHOE, you are wrong
18:10 PST 7/22/04
Dude: Shoester,they do that in lots of countries only some programming is far worse.Day to day living is far worse. Stupid of you to dig your own country into the muck.Why don't you go live where they hack people's noses off,I think you would be much happier around gloom,doom and misery. You feed off it.
17:32 PST 7/22/04
Shoester : Let us not forget the prevailing trends of our Nation. Thousand dollar Makeovers, prized "Survivors" who win grand sums of money for entertainment where real survivors of struggle just to eat get nothing, as we gamble at our "Indian" casiono's. The mocking is factual and sinful. Spin that Wheel!!!
17:26 PST 7/22/04
SHOE: WE lied as in our government, continue later. Typo, with I, on I did not ONLY speak...
10:49 PST 7/22/04
Shoefly: First there is indispu^table proof that Japan had no way of winning of the War. Yet we hatched an egg of expense that we had to lay^drop. I lied about the atrocities of the Vietcong, even credible the Japanese, and help circulate to other countries. Chefman suggests how about all the starved dead fr
10:40 PST 7/22/04
Hiroshima: There isn't a country on earth that hasn't had leaders lie to the 'peasants', each statement made you say well the USA lied, or something else didn't count because of...at least ONLY people were tortured in Canada and it didn't ruin their horticulture...
9:56 PST 7/22/04
REALITYCHECK: I have not made ONLY excuses for other countries. If you read, I have cut down on Germany, Japan, Iraq. You want to talk numbers, 58,000 some Americans died in Vietnam, counting MIA's, no one considers the MILLIONS we killed. FACT.Roho they weren't attacking US AT ALL, OUR SACRERD LAND,THAT WE STOLD
9:36 PST 7/22/04
Hiroshima: Once again, do your research. Those are docu^mented from countries around the world who also suffered and also from the Japanese themselves, while the Japanese bragged and took pictures. You have one set of rules for Americans, and you make only excuses for other countries, and THAT is ridiculous.
9:27 PST 7/22/04
SHOE: To H. Ridiculous, the Pentagon Papers finally revealed we LIED Grossly on Vietcong atrocities, I'm sure we did with Japan, AND we have a MORE reason to lie with OUR Atrocity! Sorry about a Relative burned it is terrible. To ROHO, in our legal system our freedoms are decided more on money, don't piss
9:20 PST 7/22/04
Hiroshima: You are NOT looking at the FACT Japanese Military kidnapped HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF WOMEN and MURDERED THEM, after using them as^ s^ex slaves, ATE people, buried them alive, burned them alive, and it was those SAME MILITARY cities that were bombed. Sorry? Never in a million years! For such a self proclaimed history expert earlier you were accusing the USA of making up those FACTS. You didn't KNOW SQUAT! Approx 232,000 Japanese POW's, and those are from countries around the world, DIED due to Japanese atrocities in captivitiy. My relative's wife and kids, although older now, still LIVES knowing their father was deliberately BURNED ALIVE and FILMED. Yet you would expect them as American's to apologize for any long term suffering they dealt during a war fought to win while Japanese have NEVER formally apologized for their atrocious acts. I am GLAD they bombed, and if they hadn't you might just be food on their table today.
8:10 PST 7/22/04
ROHO:: You just don't get it. You enjoy the freedom of America and piss on the graves of men and women who gave it to you. Your words now tear down from within your freedom this country was built upon. Critism is not a bad thing, but languishing in it to the point of aversion is of ill thought. Enemy fuel.
7:36 PST 7/22/04
SHOE: Yes remember the terrorism of Oklahoma City and Waco, from our boys, get it? Back to Chefman69, who 1st brought up Hiroshima. He said it so brilliantly, not only them but the starving people who died hungry in 3rd World Nations, and his poignant point of us only looking in our own yard, & Y we hated
5:30 PST 7/22/04
ROHO:: I'm so ignorant and shallow that I realize no matter how much apologizing, money, soul searching, or drowning in YOUR tears, nothing will undo the past. You now deny your lineage? God, I only wish you didn't call yourself an American. 911 is the cause, terrorism is our fight, boy, get it?
5:18 PST 7/22/04
Shoefly: Yes, but your NOT looking at the long term damage from the Nuclear Bombs! I am embarrased to be half German. They outrank Japan, Iraq, and USA as far as atrocities. It amazes me how shallow you are Roho, and ignorant. You ignore the fact many nations can speak out against their country, the impover
3:39 PST 7/22/04
Hiroshima: You make excuses for EVERYONE EXCEPT THE USA who you want to condemn. Then there is the British: "July 1944: Hamburg firestorm 2nd attack on Hamburg by British saturation night bombers produced column of heated air 2.5 miles high with wind 33 mph 100,000 Germans killed, 300,000 buildings burned, 750,000 homeless Feb.13,14,1945: Dresden firestorm Dresden was a cultural center in Germany city burned for a week, 35,000 killed, 1600 acres destroy^ed British saturation bombing destroy^ed 60 cities in Germany, 20% of the total residential area, killed 300,000, injured 780,000, left 7.5 million homeless by the end of the war." Look at those figures and it wasn't even an atomic weapon.
3:05 PST 7/22/04
SHOE: I've read on our fear on Hitler getting the bomb. However he was out of the picture by April 30th, 45. John Toland's book on him is very interesting, read it twice, most comprehensive book on Hitler. At least Canada's horticulture didn't get ruined as much as ^ SE Asia, very extensive damage & long
1:21 PST 7/22/04
Hiroshima: No, we didn't want to show our imperialistic powers. One reason America wanted to develop the atomic bomb as quickly as possible was the fear that Germany would develop it and use it first. They had been working on it for quite some time, and the V2 rocket was the preferred delivery system since it did not depend on pilots and crew. From the moment the Allies first heard about Germany's quest for atomic weapons, they did everything they could to try to thwart the attempt. When the war was finally over it was realized that Germany was no where near as far as first thought. It is estimated it would have taken them at least another three years to get as far as America did.
0:56 PST 7/22/04
SHOE: I read in 1925, 38 Nations in the Geneva Protocol, banned chemicals for warfare, all except two, Japan and USA. UMM...shame on both!! We can dance all around the globe on atrocities, just admit we dropped 2 Nuclear Bombs and it was WRONG. Despite Japanese POW atrocities. ROHO, you have solid facts?
0:37 PST 7/22/04
Hiroshima: Don't forget Canada who invented it and sneaked to use their own as guinea pigs to test it. Hiroshima contained the 2nd army headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. To quote a Japanese report "Probably more than a thousand times since the beginning of the war did the Hiroshima citizens see off with cries of "Banzai" the troops leaving from the harbor". Nagasaki was one of the largest seaports of Japan and a heavy industrial center,it produced ordnance, ships, military equipment and other war materials. Japan wasn't the only country fighting against the allies in WW2.
22:26 PST 7/21/04
SHOE: What is your point! England, Germany, Italy used Mustard Gas, and the US. sockpiled the most. As IF the US hasn't used our soldiers as guinea pigs. I'm talking the two biggest bombs dropped in this World, the M. Project knowing the consequences. I never said USA is to blame for everything, take so
22:21 PST 7/21/04
Hiroshima: And Canada invented mustard gas and tested it on unwitting people who were NOT volunteers but forced. So what is your point? "60 years after Ottawa used 2,500 Canadian soldiers as guinea pigs, it admitted testing chemical weapons on them at a military base in Suffield, Alberta. At a ceremony in Suffield May 5, Canadian defense minister Arthur Eggleton thanked the soldiers, who he claimed were volunteers, for their "sacrifice." He did not offer an apology. In fact, chemical weapons, including mustard gas, blister gas, and tear gas were used on the soldiers, as young as 16, without their knowledge or consent. Nearly all of them suffered extreme pain and lifelong health problems. Mustard gas destroys human tissue on contact, causing painful blistering of the skin and lungs."
21:34 PST 7/21/04
SHOE: Most people in the know, KNEW that Japan couln't possibly win. We wanted to show our imperialistic power. Funny in History in College I got A's, I've read more. You are excluding the genetic damage WE CAUSED, for hundreds of years. H. don't forget our herbicide bombing of SE Asia in the equation.
21:24 PST 7/21/04
Hiroshima: There has never been a formal apology for the atrocities commited by Japanese soldiers during WW II. I had a relative who was filmed being burned alive by Japanese in a POW camp.
21:14 PST 7/21/04
ROHO:: 95,000 died at Hiroshima, 30,000 at Nagasawki. You make it sound as if we knew Japan was ready to surrender after first one. Old radio was only form of communication. Orders had already been given before word could reach. You should try reading more than one book, pehaps you'd be less of a bore.
21:09 PST 7/21/04
Hiroshima: Tanaka (unmapped Territories 1991) docu^ments a series of appalling war crimes that have escaped notice in standard history, For instance, the mas&sacre of more than 2,500 Australian and British POWs in a camp called Sandakan on North Borneo, the slaughter of 21 nurses on the Indonesian isle of Banka, and the ma ^ss murder of civilians, including German missionaries in the Bismarck archipelago as Allied Forces closed in 1944. The wide spread cannibalism practiced by Japanese soldiers in New Guinea and elsewhere in East Asia. Also the infamous Unit 773, which conducted horrific medical experiments on POWs. Approximately two hundred thousand women were forced into se^xual slavery by Japan's armed forces, called"comfort women" mostly kidnapped Korean women, often murdered after repeated use. These are well docu^mented facts, the Japanese took many pictures of their war crimes
20:37 PST 7/21/04
SHOE: The facts ARE that Japan was about to surrender in May of 45. Facts are 100,000 people died at the end of August, by 1950 200,000 dead. By mid spring of 45 Japan was in the midst of surrendering. Read John Hersey's Hiroshima, and see how the lies got bigger.Quote. Wake up idiots. USA rendered major
20:23 PST 7/21/04
ROHO:: HIROSHIMA; He's been told all this in comments below by many different people. He refuses to try to educate himself in anything other than his own dogmatic, lockstep, inaccurate veiws in running down America, jumping from subject to subject. Talk with solid facts, Shoe, or hang up the phone.
20:09 PST 7/21/04
Hiroshima: What I said is factual, and it isn't coming from USA journalists. Do your own research or keep your head buried in the sand. Some POW's were forced to dig their own graves and were buried alive.
19:38 PST 7/21/04
SHOE: You put people in horrific situations you get horrific results. There's plenty of evidence we lied on the atrocities of the Vietcong, wouldn't doubt with the Japs. Hirosh. as far as your finincial scheme, you figured wrong. However the rich get richer because the po^or get po^orer, applies more toda
18:42 PST 7/21/04
Hiroshima: The Japanese were training civilians, much has been ignored or forgotten regarding the atrocities commited by Japan's military during WWII, including cannibalism, the starvation and slaughter of POWs, the rape, forced prosti^tion and murder of noncombatants. Read about the Bataan Death March.
18:19 PST 7/21/04
ROHO:: You for got FREE. Talk another country down, you'd be tryin to type without your hands. I don't think you know and appreciate what you've got here, boy. I doubt you've been overseas and only know a little by book. Apology? I don't expect them from ambiguous halfwits, only more lies.
15:29 PST 7/21/04
Hiroshima: Basically Shoe is saying that if a LOWER INCOME LEVEL guy comes along, PLANS this SNEAKY, COWARDLY attack and clobbers Shoe and a couple of his buddies or kids over the head while they aren't looking, which KILLS a couple of them, then Shoe, who has a HIGHER INCOME LEVEL strikes back hitting him HARDER and kills a few of the original attacker's people, then Shoe OWES the dude money, has to have the grace to give him an apology, has to pay him retribution, and has to kiss his feet for the rest of his life, while the original attacker and instigator sits there playing innocent victim whining about his fate trying to make Shoe feel guilty because he didn't do anything it was all Shoes fault.
15:09 PST 7/21/04
SHOE: Peaches, it is a wonderful kind tribute to the Innocents lost on that terrible day. "Killed", feel better Roho! The beef is NOT against the photo, but ignoring what we did, 2 nuclear bombs. Even Gen. MacArthur said we made a big mistake, what about some EFP commentators! I didn't bring up Hiroshima
14:52 PST 7/21/04
Peaches: .......back to the tribute...... I think it is wonderful someone took their time and went to this effort to show someone they cared. If one wanted to make a tribute to some other cause and post it around they certainly could also as nobody is stopping them. This man did what was in his heart.
12:23 PST 7/21/04
SHOE: Doing the Condom routine again Roho. Your'e just Proud Period! Yes, it is nice to live in the richest country (besides Kuwait) in the World. The Truths are not there for all Americans, our evening news is tripe, full of half truths. Don't expect an apology ditto.
12:14 PST 7/21/04
ROHO:: I can blanket nothing when the truths are there to see for all Americans. It is your specialty to issue half truths and if you call my defending my country insulting, consider youself insulted. Don't expect an apology. Unlike you, I am proud to be an American and don't take my freedoms for granted.
12:01 PST 7/21/04
SHOE: There is NOTHING Irrelevant I said. I could easily throw the cloth of childhishness over you, Roho, as you BLANKET many TRUTHS on the USA. You speciality is insults. Someone brought up Hiroshima, if we don't have the GRACE to apologize on the World's WORST Attack. Sorry Peaches, the Tribute was Monu
11:01 PST 7/21/04
bama girl: that is just beautiful.
10:12 PST 7/21/04
Peaches: I have to agree with ROHO. Back to the tribute......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is amazing and the picture is also artistically beautiful. Shoe, if you want to continue discussing anything other than the tribute I respectfully request you do it somewhere else. It is time to stop this.
8:10 PST 7/21/04
ROHO:: SHOE; From irrelevancy to insults, a tactic of the childish. You cited nothing good but insist on critizing. I didn't say a thing about 3rd world. It's their gov. that has caused their conditions not because of ancestory. And just what does all of this have to do with the tribute.
6:59 PST 7/21/04
vandoodle: man....and i thought this was to supposed to be a funny site...
3:58 PST 7/21/04
Shoefly: We are babies on the block, on the scheme of things. We have NO REAL comprehension of the Arabic World, not being in it, the arid, harsh land they got. Yes, the citizens may have fought for slavery, but it was a govt. ruse. I rarely can post twice in a row. I would like =time here. I haven't heard
0:47 PST 7/21/04
Peaches: IF there was a ruse, it was on the part of SOME of those in the government, not the citizens who chose to fight for a cause they believed in. I apologize for the long posts. I am unable to post twice in a row like you do. I still believe it is a waste of time and energy to sit placing blame.
19:10 PST 7/20/04
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