SHOE:
I wonder how you post those long posts. Peaches, I'm not blaming you. We, is used as the majority. Let us get some perspective! In 1800 a record 1 Billion people, 204 years later, OVER 6 Billion. Civil War was not fought for slavery (a ruse), mostly for Indus. vs. Agric. control. Unfair, can't writ
18:30 PST 7/20/04
Peaches:
I just refuse to accept blame for something I did not do, was never a part of, was never responsible for, while no credit is given for the good that was done, and NO blame is given to those races, including blacks, Arabs etc., who shared responsibility. "Only a tiny minority of Americans ever owned slaves. This is true even for those who lived in the ante bellum South where only one white in five was a slaveholder." My great, great? grandfather lived in the south yet fought for the North for a cause he believed in. He never owned or approved of owning a slave. Also, when you say "WE", you label all Americans as being the same all lumped together, and this is NOT accurate. Spending the rest of your life blaming others and being NEGATIVE is a waste of energy and solves nothing. I happen to think there are more positive things a person can do to help make things better. Sorry webmasters for that long post.
18:03 PST 7/20/04
ShoeTrue:
Descendants=to have as ancestors. Get un brainwashed! Alucard sent me something about our emblem shouldn't be an Eagle, but a Condom, how we cover things up!!
Sorry Eagle born Malemute. Roho, it's not the judgment of your Soul, is it that do you have one? Peaches, you wanted me to say Peach Pie!!
17:35 PST 7/20/04
oink:
bit ch
17:23 PST 7/20/04
Peaches:
Approximately six hundred thousand WHITE Americans died in the civil war. White slave trades enslaved whites. Arabs have been enslaving African blacks probably since before Islam was established in the 7th century. "Slavery of blacks not only is built into Arab and Islamic culture (the Arabic word for a black person is "abeed", meaning a slave), but is the basis for that culture itself; the Arab word "islam" means, literally, submission; in this case, submission to the will of allah." "Bantu tribal leaders apparently thought little about selling other blacks into servitude, or at least those from neighboring tribes or villages. And Arab traders were happy to oblige and had ready gold or trade goods. All this was to be repeated many centuries later when western Europeans began trading in black African slaves in the 15th century, coincidental with the first Portuguese exploration expeditions along long African coastline in that century, which was the precursor to the slave system that beset this country from the 17th to the 19th centuries."
The following is from National Geographic:"There are more slaves today than were seized from Africa in four centuries of the trans Atlantic slave trade. The modern commerce in humans rivals illegal drug trafloveing in its global reach and in the destruction of lives.
17:21 PST 7/20/04
Malemute:
Our "descendents"? I think its the other way around, SHOE, and its YOU thats being a bit narrow...If you ARE American, wheres all this animosity coming from, anyway???
16:30 PST 7/20/04
SHOE:
You mean the impoverished 3rd World Countries? Virtually all of Europe (our descendants) can speak up or against! I have sited some good things about America, it is YOU who is narrow minded! Other Subject, Truckers should reunite and restart another Convoy.
15:27 PST 7/20/04
ROHO::
Shoe Your undoing is pointing fingers while having points with which only you seem to know it all. Your narrow minded veiws only limit you in what has existed since the origin of man. Meanwhile, enjoy your freedoms to talk your country down.It would be cherished by others who've never known the feel
14:41 PST 7/20/04
SHOE:
Colors? I think the term "Yellow Dog Democrat" applies, but I prefer Nader. A vote does not = a vote in this country with the electoral system. No muddled facts, a military base does not = 2 Cities. Baloney, lots here do think USA is A1, you shifted gear here. The other subject...
11:37 PST 7/20/04
ROHO::
SHOE;You dance well, I think Kerry missed a good running mate. If you feel the facts closing in you start muddeling facts or shift to another subject. Everyone knows the US isn't A1 but your colors are runnin'. Only God knows my soul, and He shall be my rightful judge, not you.
9:21 PST 7/20/04
Shoefly:
His Soul only is soulful for the USA, and only for the ones that are STRICTLY Patriotic. Mind you there are WONDERFUL things about the USA, but plenty AWFULS. One being Blind Arrogance and Allegiance to the USA.
STRICTLY patriotic. The Indians were not noted for slavery like the Whites,
7:32 PST 7/20/04
Peaches:
Since anti American and hating Americans is deliciously IN now, I think you are only worsening the situation. Nobody here claimed we were APPLE PIE! But I certainly would NOT make excuses or express understanding for anyone full of hate.It does make you sound ENABLING.
7:24 PST 7/20/04
SHOE:
Peaches, I am from the USA. Other countries have had their many wrongs. I don't include that because everyone else is doing that. I am trying to make people AWARE that the USA is not this clean Apple Pie Country, that everybody thinks it is. Roho, more or less said off with my head.His Soul only is
7:15 PST 7/20/04
Peaches:
Shoe, you are talking all over the place. Someone disputes your statements and you go off all over the place on yet another tangent. You ARE basically ONLY condemning the USA while making EXCUSES for what other countries did. You shrug them off like they don't matter and move onto something new to attack the USA about...well it is ok or not as big a deal because they are smaller, or they aren't as wealthy. I am suspi.cious that you aren't even actually from the USA as you are pushing way too hard here. Your earlier statement DID SEEM TO show understanding for terrorists or those who hate us, while you condemn us for even Japan who attacked us is very telling. You can defend and understand people from other countries, and terrorists hates, but now you are so mighty you can determine and judge the state or ROHO's souL? ROHO has a kind loving heart! I suspect his soul will remain intact.
6:17 PST 7/20/04
SHOE :
I agree, T.L. although I am not half hearted on that issue, granted it was to end a War. There is mounting evidence parts of Top USA officialdom, knew it was coming, allowed it, to use as ammo to fight for the Arabic Oil, and Opium by the way. Once again, this is a nice touching tribute however.
3:59 PST 7/20/04
The limey:
this is a sad and very touching reminder of a despi^cable act commited by a group of bigots,zealots and madmen, please don't water this fact down with half hearted comments about hiroshima and nagasaki, those two bombs ended a war not started one, it is a tribute, nothing more,a way to show feeling
3:32 PST 7/20/04
SHOE:
ROHO, I think sacrificed lives can also be murdered. I can easily say your points are one^sided and too conservative. I have a head, wonder about your soul. Two nuclear bombs are not irrelevant, or our no business in Vietnam, etc. Good old Rush L. made the word "liberal" dirty.
0:47 PST 7/20/04
SHOE :
Peaches, what I mean by START, was^still EARLY in our American History. I realize Blacks sold Blacks to the Whites, but NOT ALL Cultures, certainly in MODERN times the USA was the most prevalent in the Western World. It took a long time 4 that freedom. Also White Christians destroy^ed many cultures.
0:00 PST 7/20/04
ROHO::
SHOE; While your thinking outside of the circle, look up sacrificed, murdered and killed. You have got to be the grandfather of all Bleedinghearts Your further blinded of a real world by your constant mixing of irrelevant points and liberalist tears. Kneel down in apology, let them take YOUR head.
23:44 PST 7/19/04
mish:
www.lessavenged. com
22:18 PST 7/19/04
Peaches:
Actually, our nation did NOT start with using slaves. It was a terrible thing practiced by ALL cultures INCLUDING blacks and Native Americans long before we even we existed as a country. It was due to AMERICANS that slaves were freed. Just for the record, over 3000 blacks OWNED BLACK slaves in the antebellum south. Sacajewa was an Indian slave sold as a child to Indians by Indians. "Slavery existed for thousands of years before the Atlantic slave trade was born, and in all societies. But in the thousand years of its existence, there never was an anti slavery movement until white Christians, Englishmen and Americans created one. If not for the anti slavery att.itudes and military power of white Englishmen and Americans, the slave trade would not have been brought to an end."
22:12 PST 7/19/04
Shoefly:
Other countries have made reparations. Pearl Harbor was minor to our attacks. I'm not saying we haven't helped other counties, but we also the richest country on Earth (by far), also with loans, we have one^upmanship, make demands. Our Nation started with ridding the Indians and using slaves. FACT.
20:01 PST 7/19/04
GERMAN SHEPARD :
THAT TRUCK DRIVER IS NICE!!!!!
19:54 PST 7/19/04
Cadderly:
I think YOU should think outside your anti American circle shoe. You are making judgments that are false, reciting bits of history taken willy^nilly here and there to suit your tale which leads to inaccuracies. You don't DEMAND any other country apologize or admit wrongs they have committed to one another. You don't demand that the Japanese apologize, fix Pearl Harbor, or pay resti^tutions to those they MURDERED, yet you expect us. Not one person from another country or their leaders have apologized for their cruelties even to their own people, nor have you demanded or expected another to apologize for anything cruel that was ever done to us or to another. We put our money and our manpower, and our time to help rebuild even those who attacked us first! NO OTHER COUNTRY HAS DONE THAT. Our citizens are among the first who rush to donate our own time, money or goods whenever we hear of a national tragedy in another country etc. So it is a LIE for you to say we have no sympathy. You have one set of rules you are DEMANDING Americans follow, yet you aren't requesting it from anyone else. That makes you a hypocrite.
18:37 PST 7/19/04
SHOE:
Sacrified^Murdered^Killed. The Swift end was Devastating, and if it ever happend to us we'd bomb the World. What I'm getting here it's all America or nothing, no sympathy for what we did, just da^mn justification. THINK, outside your USA circle for once!!!!
12:28 PST 7/19/04
Malemute:
Shoe, do you know how many lives were lost because of the Japanese, at the time? They were walked, run, whipped and God knows what else...Please forgive me if I'm a little bit bitter...Alot of people died due to the bombs, but how many were saved because it ended everything???
12:10 PST 7/19/04
MALASHIBABA:
You are weird shoe
7:08 PST 7/19/04
ROHO::
SHOE; What a nice way you have of putting it. The 911 "Sacrificed" instead of MURDERED. To listen to you, I'd think you'd want apologies from us for that too. We put a swift end to a war with Japan that sacrificed our men and women lives, fighting for YOUR freedom just so you can talk U.S. down.
0:09 PST 7/19/04
ShoeSad:
Ah Shoegoo, I have paid tribute here, and others express how they feel. Despite my criticisms toward America, I THINK THIS WAS A GREAT TRIBUTE TO THE SOULS SACRIFICIED AND LOST ON THAT TERRIBLE DAY. When someone else brought up Hiroshima, I can't help to think of THAT tragedy and paid tribute there.
5:48 PST 7/18/04
shoegoo:
You have your nerve shoe. This tribute is not about you or how you feel. Get over yourself.
1:23 PST 7/17/04
Shoe^repair:
You mean "you have to ask", should be your nick. It is a worthy tribute to ones that died in this horror, and to the braves ones who helped save lives. That was my FIRST comment, I still have some grave criticism toward the USA, but not to this past scenario at all, fresh wounds yet.
10:36 PST 7/16/04
I have to say:
Wot is this
8:07 PST 7/16/04
SHOE:
Many dictators have tortured their people that is one good thing USA hasn't done, but we have created the 2 biggest travesties known to mankind, yes it was to end a war. Many lies were told on the Vietcong, and I'm sure ditto on the Japanese.
0:44 PST 7/16/04
SHOE:
Roho what? I'm not laying a guilt trip on you, that was a sincere thank you. However we aren't talking just civilians, we are talking two ENTIRE cities. Here's some money for hundreds of years of radiation. CanadVet, I can see your point SOMEWHAT. P.Justice, there are other travesties no doubt...
23:40 PST 7/15/04
poeticjustice:
Jeez,One man does a memorial on his truck and some people can't appreciate it for what it is. I hate to tell you but there's not enough room to name all the people that have shamelessly killed by wars ,drunk drivers etc. honestly though lets lay blame where it belongs. Saddam tortured his people
20:57 PST 7/15/04
CanadaWW2VET:
The decision to drop the bombs on Japan was not made lightly.The war would have continued for YEARS longer leading to more loss of life not less. When the USA dropped the bomb the war ended, and that was a GOOD thing.My buddies died daily and suddenly it was over.Save your sympathies,USA SAVED LIVES
8:17 PST 7/14/04
canadian chick:
its amazing, simply amazing. i love it.
21:16 PST 7/13/04
Malemute:
BROMTASTICBRYNI...(wow! where did THAT come from???) Anyway, WHAT THE HANG ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, you demented(sp) MORON???
16:25 PST 7/13/04
CATCRAZY:
NO, IT'S NOT STUPID. AT LEAST SOMEONE CARES ENOUGH TO GIVE HIS HEART OUT TO THE SOLDERS WE LOST INSTEAD OF JUST FOREGETTING ABOUT THEM
16:07 PST 7/13/04
chad what the:
this is stupid
14:48 PST 7/13/04
BROMTASTICBRYNI:
ALL U AMERCANS R TAPPED DONT U REALISE ALL UR SATALITES R THE CAUSE OF THINGS LIKE CANCER AND AIDS?? YJU FINK AIDS CAME OUT OF NOWHERE AND ITS WORST IN ONLY ONE PLACE? THE SATALITES CAN SEND HARMFUL BEAMS TO WHEREVA YA WANT....THINK ABOUT IT U NO BRASHES..BRYNI 14 UK 
11:55 PST 7/13/04
Malemute:
Hopefully, we have learned from our mistakes...We've only been around a couple hundred years...Spit in the bucket in the grand scheme...From what I have read, Japan was merciless in its torture, etc..Something about the long walk or what ever it was...They were not allowed to eat,sleep,nothing...
16:24 PST 7/12/04
HOOPLA!!:
i worship eggs
20:48 PST 7/11/04
ROHO::
SHOE; JAPAN wouldn't hesitate putting civilans in battle. They were already using ill trained troops. We helped rebuild the nation and U.S. funds are still available for those that survived the bombs. Apology for something I couldn't have made a difference in? NOT! Don't push a guilt trip on me.
12:57 PST 7/11/04
Shoefly:
Granted, but an atrocius way to end the war, then to bomb twice. Radiation Cancer for many many years. When someone brought up Hiroshima, no one lent any grace to their tragedy from us. Don't think that's much to ask, considering the damage or cost of innocent civilian lives. Amen. Thank you.
2:17 PST 7/11/04
ROHO::
SHOE; OK, the U.S. scr.ewed up here and there in it's 200 plus year history. And every other nation in this world are all so squeaky clean. By the way, in 4 years 450,000 American lives were lost, DEFENDING our nation against Japan. A war THEY started and would NOT surrender in.
2:02 PST 7/11/04
SHOE:
First off Saddam had nothing to do with 911, that was Osama. No, I am not going to stop, until someone admits the USA made some major wrongs (and rights). BTW, Cheney sold arms to Saddam, for money honey. Since that 1 guy brought up Hiroshima, everyone ignored that except me, not 1 other.
0:25 PST 7/11/04
Caress:
KNOCK IT OFF SHOEFLY! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! GOD! Go get SADDAM TO GAS THE KURDS AND LISTEN TO HIM CALL THEM DOGS AND PITY PO^OR SADDAM BECAUSE YOU UNDERSTAND HIM! DON'T YOU EVER SHUT UP OR STOP? THIS ISN'T THE PLACE FOR YOUR CR^AP!
23:56 PST 7/10/04
Shoefly:
As if Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't suffer? We herbicide bombed SE Asia, where things won't be able to grow for 200 years. What happen on Sep 11 was also very sad, but war always begets war.
15:18 PST 7/8/04
maniak43:
anyone who has a prob wit this country is an idiot and if anyone thinks that 9^11 wasnt that bad than maybee u should move to afgan land
15:12 PST 7/8/04
SHOE:
Lollipop, 3x on this particular site have I paid homage to the ones lost on 9 11. One person brought up the victims of Hiroshima, (don't forget Nagasaki either), and I agreed. However many others can't look at some USA atrociies too. My heart does go out for the suffering relatives.
13:59 PST 7/8/04
Lollipop:
Shoe AKA truth2. This picture is about a truck driver who has honored 9^11 victims from all over the world. The negative comments from you stating UNDERSTANDING for how THEY HATE US, are INAPPROPRIATE AND INSENSITIVE! Too bad you can't show understanding for US, who LOST RELATIVES that day!
13:29 PST 7/8/04
Truth2:
Terrorist? Give me a break. You just can't think out side of your circle. Read History OBJECTIVELY, and from all over, and you'll find plenty of TRUTHS unkind to the USA. I'm not an ostrich like you.
12:29 PST 7/8/04
Truth:
Looks like you are the one pointing the negative fingers toward the USA SHOE. You UNDERSTAND American haters? Why, are you a terrorist? Why don't you just give all the terrorists a big pat on the back and thank them while you are at it for 9^11 and let them know how much YOU UNDERSTAND THEM! I
21:56 PST 7/7/04
Shoefly:
Well I haven't heard any honest complaints on the USA,from the defense, OR what possibly what other countries think of us. Talk of smug, pompous and arrogant(and blind). READ, I said Many not ALL. Talking of as^sumptions! No one knows it ALL either. Many Americans are apt to point the finger only.
20:38 PST 7/7/04
Truth:
There you go making as^sumptions about what ALL Americans THINK! You read all our minds eh? and speak for all of us? Right on Mal, SHOE is pompous, but I will add arrogant, and know^it^all to the list.
19:19 PST 7/7/04
SHOE:
It was a terrible tragedy on the USA, I never denied that. We are probably the last country to be attacked (besides Australia). Other countries live thru terrorism weekly. Once again showing how many Americans only think of their country, we dropped two nuclear bombs, not one. Should I go on. Dirt!!
18:58 PST 7/7/04
Mal:
I was thinking how pompous and smug YOU were sounding shoe!I would get defensive too if my country was being attacked, that certainly isn't being smug or making excuses.They are merely pointing out discrepancies and hypocritical statements from those attacks.I hear ALL your dirt from YOUR media
18:16 PST 7/7/04
SHOE:
We SHOULDN't have the excuse as lucky and wealthy we are. How defensive and smug we are Americans are sounding. Lot of countries in Europe have matured, others corrupt, HEL^L YES, raped, pillaged, abject poverty. We don't announce are dirt either. The media is not as free as U think, thats a charade
14:24 PST 7/7/04
Truth:
It doesn't take ONLY a Super Power to yield SUPER corruption...Middle East,Columbia, Mexico...the list goes on. Canada is also fighting corruption scandals. The USA announces their own dirt to the world. Let's be FAIR, and go inside ALL countries and THOROUGHLY ana^lyze THEIR histories!
9:51 PST 7/7/04
Malemute:
Granted, SHOE, but if you can compare an Orsen Wells radio show that some of us have heard about...You know the one about the martians invading...Some people heard the first part of the show and knew it was hoax..MOST people, because it was well done for the time, really believed it to be true 
9:35 PST 7/7/04
Tolerance:
Using the USA as a scapegoat for the Middle East conflicts or THEIR OWN wars which have raged on SINCE TIME BEGAN IS a fallacy. They have a history of not being able to get along with ANYONE, and are FILLED with prejudiced HATE even among their own. Their men stone their women, and kill their own kids, nothing is ever THEIR fault. Yet, you understand them? Their men ARE the EPITOMY of arrogance and narcissists.
8:35 PST 7/7/04
Shoebrake:
Peaches, fyi there is a type of American bigotry against other countries, people who never lived in a 3rd World Country. Sorry I didn't come down on the American haters, probably cuz I can understand them, we are a big rich country, the richest. We are also very young, spoiled, narcisstic.
1:20 PST 7/7/04
Peaches:
Bigot means intolerant or prejudice against...hmmm...I hear people DEFENDING against the intolerant prejudiced comments some make on here.
22:44 PST 7/6/04
SHOE:
Heleana or with pro American bigots? Malemute, docu^mentary means it is docu^mented, as much as possible. To expose the truth cost money. I DO want to say there are some great things about this country and people, but Super Powers often yield super corruption. Till we realize we are all linked.
21:34 PST 7/6/04
Heleana:
Son, you can raise he.ll only with the anti American bigots, OK?
20:05 PST 7/6/04
Peaches:
stephania, I DEFINITELY agree with your wonderful comment! What you said was very touching and nice to hear!
19:56 PST 7/6/04
Malemute:
irishmore, f911 is a movie...Thats ALL it is...It is made to look like a doc.umentary, but it boils down to ratings and money...IT IS A DADBLAM MOVIE!!!
17:58 PST 7/6/04
Irishless:
Oh grow up Irishmore! We aren't responsible for hacking off mens ears for christ's sake. They do that all by themselves. WW2 wasn't STARTED by us! Neither was WW1. Neither was France's ILLEGAL INVASION Without UNITED NATIONS SANCTIONS AGAINST THE IVORY COAST. Take a look at England's history!
17:44 PST 7/6/04
stephania:
i think that this is a wonderfull thing for one to take on. if i had had familey there i would like for the world to know, or at least the usa. thank you for careing.
13:49 PST 7/6/04
Shoefly:
Thank you Irishmore, I heard Farenheit9 11 is a great docu^mentary with many awards. The USA has done some great things, but also has done a lot of harm. One thing being patriotic, another blindly patriotic. However the truck was nice homage to the innocents lost on 9 11th
9:29 PST 7/6/04
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